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Post by Guest Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:33 am

Rose_Lida wrote:"If it's my last day, what's the point in working? Or in following the rules? If it's my last day, why not go wild?"

YES if it was my last day why not pissing my mom off even more ^^;
I know many ways how.. by now

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Post by Rose_Lida Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:39 pm

XD
A friend of mine is failing a required class ON PURPOSE to piss his mother off. It's working so far...
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Post by Aliucon Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:08 pm

Totally right, Lida, it all depends on what kind of person you are...
Some take joy from breaking any kind of rule and just going wild. Doesn`t mean all people are like that, even though it is what people tend to have on common sense, their vision of society is that twisted. They are not fully wrong, of course. But we shouldn`t generalize that all of the world utterly sucks because all the people are bad at heart. If you believe that to be true, you just aggravate this more towards being true.

By the way. Do you guys think all the people are bad naturally, or are they corrupted by society? Or you think about something else entirely? xD
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Post by Rose_Lida Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:28 pm

I think...It really depends. See, it might not have anything to do with society or the fact that people start out bad. True, people might start out bad, but that doesn't mean all people are bad. It might have something to do with how the person is raised. I mean, if someone is raised correctly, then they will be good. Some people aren't raised right, but they are still good, and still play by the rules. Others, well...This rarely happens, but they could be raised with a perfect family and still break the rules every chance they get. I'm sure society corrupts some people. But if people are born bad, then...They can still become good. Wow. Long explanation. O_O
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Post by blinq Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:36 pm

Some people like to break rules, some not
I'm too lazy too explain :D

I tend to like the things I better shouldn't xD

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Post by Aliucon Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:26 pm

.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:I tend to like the things I better shouldn't xD

If it serves as a consolation, this doesn't sound so bad... Inimoo

Rose_Lida wrote:I mean, if someone is raised correctly, then they will be good. Some people aren't raised right, but they are still good, and still play by the rules. Others, well...This rarely happens, but they could be raised with a perfect family and still break the rules every chance they get.

That's rather intriguing, isn't it? xD
But that fits on the side that says that society corrupts the person, doesn't it? His parents would be part of this society of ours. Saying that the way we are raised affects our behavior and choices (which I agree with, totally) sounds right to me. Though it's not a matter of simple common sense, to me. There are so many factors to be considered, might as well be impossible to determine how would someone react to a certain event with 100% precision.

Hum, I believe that we don't have free will. All of our actions are precalculated, modified by what we see, hear, smell, however else we interact with the world. Even if you tried to snap out of this, as if it was a mind control or something, you would just be doing it because you were stimulated to try and prove the theory you read or heard about wrong, or even for some other small thing that might have happened in the world...

Hum, sorry, can't get carried away when talking about it. xD
But I do think about those things a lot.
Ehh...what do you people think about free will, then, if anything? ^^"
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Post by blinq Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:08 am

Aliucon wrote:
But that fits on the side that says that society corrupts the person, doesn't it? His parents would be part of this society of ours. Saying that the way we are raised affects our behavior and choices (which I agree with, totally) sounds right to me. Though it's not a matter of simple common sense, to me. There are so many factors to be considered, might as well be impossible to determine how would someone react to a certain event with 100% precision.

Yeah the society only corrupts men xD

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Post by Aliucon Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:07 pm

Yeah, sure... xD
It corrupts woman too, though it's more noticeable in men, most of the time.
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Post by Rose_Lida Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:22 pm

Free will...Hm...I believe people have a free will, at least to a certain extent. I mean, parents are supposed to raise you to be a good, law-abiding citizen, but some don't. And others do, but their kids become serial killers or thieves or something like that. And everyone makes at least one huge decision in their lives that will define who they really are. That decision is made with what they truly desire, and what they do will be from their own free will. I would go into more detail, but I have to go. Bye. ^^
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Post by NS Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:50 am

Aliucon wrote:Some scientists think that the universe is not infinite, but rather, it is cyclic. As in, if you get to the "edge" of the universe, you automatically "appear" on the other side. The Taoism says that, and some scientists can see some possibility on that. xD
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"Yes, he speaks the truth!"

I don't think anyone's born bad. You should see how people can change from being really friendly to TRYING TO BE A STUPID GANGSTA AND BULLYING PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mayashock:
...But yeah that's what I think Happy Edgeworth

If it was my last day I wouldn't do bad stuff. I want to go to Heaven!
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Post by Aliucon Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:35 pm

Yes, he probably does speak the truth. But who knows, that would depend on what you believe... xD
The Taoists believe that the balance should be obtained in everything, every aspect should be evened out, and its greatest symbol is the Yin Yang, right? o.o
Well, makes sense, but you know, I guess that if this was true, the world would never had existed. But then I would have to engage in a physical explanation about the Big Bang theory (again, not the TV comedy), and I wouldn't want to bore some people to death with too much... xD"

Well, NS, you want to go to Heaven, so you believe in God? Do you believe the God from the Bible, or you have your own visions of Him? o-o
Oh, and did any other person here already researched other religions (like Budhism) out of curiosity or for any other reason?
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Post by blinq Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:49 pm

um.. Islam? XD
We had that in school

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Post by Aliucon Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:54 pm

Really? That's cool. xD#
I know nothing about it.
The only religion other than the Catholic one that I know regularly well is Budhism.
And I don't know much. I am always interested in knowing about each of these religions and/or traditions, that don't build religions for themselves... like the Taoism, Confucionism and the Bushido. xD
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Post by blinq Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:06 pm

Aliucon wrote:Really? That's cool. xD
not really

Aliucon wrote:I know nothing about it.
If I didn't, I'd still have plenty peopell that could tell me about it XD

Aliucon wrote:I am always interested in knowing about each of these religions and/or traditions, that don't build religions for themselves... like the Taoism, Confucionism and the Bushido. xD

.. what's that?

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Post by Aliucon Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:11 pm

Heh, why isn't it cool? The more you know, the better, regardless of the nature of your knowledge.

Oh, I mentioned the Taoism before. It's not exactly a religion, but it's based on the teachings of a certain Chinese religion, the "Dao", I guess. You could say it's more of a philoshopic branch of that religion.
Confucionism is just based on teachings of a guy named Kung-Fu-Tse that lived about 1500 years ago...
And the Bushido was the code that all the samurai followed in Japan. ^^"
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Post by blinq Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:14 pm

I only know a rapper named Bushido.. lol

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Post by Aliucon Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:15 pm

Hahaha, well, I guess it can happen. xD"
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Post by Marisa Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:16 pm

xD I've heard about it ocassionally....

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Post by blinq Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:28 pm

I don't know anything about Japan or China :D
..or any other countries

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Post by Aliucon Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:35 pm

I know something about US (because it's required to learn something about it here in Brazil on History classes), Japan (because I am kind of an Otaku, knowing about it is consequence) and China ("Romance of the Three Kingdoms" and "Dynasty Warriors" present real history facts). xD"
Anything else I learned from other countries, I learned playing "Where in the world is Carmem Sandiego". xDD
So, see, games are culture! ^^
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Post by blinq Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:53 pm

Aliucon wrote:I am kind of an Otaku

Wikipedia doesn't say nice things about that xD

Wikipedia..in german :P wrote:Otaku investieren viel Zeit in ihr Hobby, welches für gewöhnlich einen hohen Grad an Fiktionalität oder Virtualität aufweist: z. B. Manga, Anime, Computerspiele, Sciencefiction, Pop-Idole etc. Von Außenstehenden wird diese Fixierung auf ihr Hobby meist als krankhaft wahrgenommen, Otakus gelten daher in Japan als kindlich bzw. ichbezogen, und man sagt ihnen geringe soziale Kompetenz nach. Aufgrund dieser Vorurteile ist die Bezeichnung Otaku bei den Fans selbst nicht besonders beliebt

lool
This obsession with their hobby is mostly perceived sickly by outsiders.
They are said to have low social competence
:D

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Post by Marisa Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:57 pm

Weeeeell....^^'''

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Post by Aliucon Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:58 pm

Yeah, they don't say good things about it on the English and Portuguese versions either. xDD
Not that I give a damn about it.
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Post by blinq Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:58 pm

Probably they're not so wrong with this low social competence thing.. xD

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Post by Marisa Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:59 pm

It depends on the person really. xD

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